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How Can A Pseudo State Exist?
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Is the Pseudo State of Northern Cyprus unique to Cyprus or are there any others in the world?

Any knowledge of these may help us as a comparitive situation

Vourka

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Hello vourka

As far as I am aware the only other country to declare UDI ( Unilateral Declaration of Independence ) was Southern Rhodesia in 1965. And they were also sanctioned.

I notice many Greek Cypriots and Greeks enjoy using the phrase "Pseudo State". I think "Quasi State" might be more appropriate these days.

My personal preference is Kibris

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SP, are you referring to Northern Cyprus as being Kibris?


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SP wrote:

I notice many Greek Cypriots and Greeks enjoy using the phrase "Pseudo State". I think "Quasi State" might be more appropriate these days.



Quasi?? Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Thats laughable. Northern Cyprus is a Pseftokratos!


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Hello Pitsilia

Sory didn't understand the Greek.

Old English Proverb." He who laughs last, laughs the loudest"

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SP, let me explain...

The word 'pseftokratos' can be broken down and undertood as:

psefto = fake
kratos = state / country


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GERMAN COURT RECOGNISES THE Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus


Turkish Cypriot daily KIBRIS newspaper (07.06.06) reports that a German court in Munich has recognized the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (breakaway regime in the occupied areas of the Republic of Cyprus). According to the paper, the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus began judicial cooperation with Germany, after its cooperation with the British police and courts.

KIBRIS reports that Peter Frazen, a German citizen who had been accused of attempting to buy Yesilada Bank in the occupied areas of Cyprus and had also been wanted by Interpol for fraud, is being tried in Germany. Upon a request of the Court of Munich seven officials from the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus went to Germany in April and testified in the investigation. Four policemen, the public prosecutor Ergul Kizilokgil, the lawyer Serhan Cinar and the head of the Inspection and Investigation Committee of TRNCs so-called Central Bank Turker Deler participated in the delegation, which visited Germany between 10 and 15 April. The expenses of their tickets and visa were met by the German Court. The expenses for their stay in Germany were covered from the budget of the ministry of finance upon a decision of the Council of Ministers and the budget of the Police Directorate. Mr Cinar traveled on his own expenses.

According to the paper, the lawyer of Mr Frazen objected to the fact that the delegation from the occupied areas would testify and said that there is no country named Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and that these witnesses cannot testify. Turkish Cypriot daily KIBRIS newspaper (07.06.06) reports that a German court in Munich has recognized the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (breakaway regime in the occupied areas of the Republic of Cyprus). According to the paper, the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus began judicial cooperation with Germany, after its cooperation with the British police and courts.

KIBRIS reports that Peter Frazen, a German citizen who had been accused of attempting to buy Yesilada Bank in the occupied areas of Cyprus and had also been wanted by Interpol for fraud, is being tried in Germany. Upon a request of the Court of Munich seven officials from the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus went to Germany in April and testified in the investigation. Four policemen, the public prosecutor Ergul Kizilokgil, the lawyer Serhan Cinar and the head of the Inspection and Investigation Committee of TRNCs so-called Central Bank Turker Deler participated in the delegation, which visited Germany between 10 and 15 April. The expenses of their tickets and visa were met by the German Court. The expenses for their stay in Germany were covered from the budget of the ministry of finance upon a decision of the Council of Ministers and the budget of the Police Directorate. Mr Cinar traveled on his own expenses.

According to the paper, the lawyer of Mr Frazen objected to the fact that the delegation from the occupied areas would testify and said that there is no country named Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and that these witnesses cannot testify. The Court of Munich, reports KIBRIS, said that there is a country named Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and these witnesses are officials of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and allowed the hearing of all the witnesses.

http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/tcpr/2006/06-06-07.tcpr.html

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vourka wrote:
Is the Pseudo State of Northern Cyprus unique to Cyprus or are there any others in the world?

Any knowledge of these may help us as a comparitive situation

Vourka


Yes, there is one and it's called the "Republic of Cyprus" but I and many others of course call it the Pseudo Republic of Cyprus.


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Eric Dayi wrote:
vourka wrote:
Is the Pseudo State of Northern Cyprus unique to Cyprus or are there any others in the world?

Any knowledge of these may help us as a comparitive situation

Vourka


Yes, there is one and it's called the "Republic of Cyprus" but I and many others of course call it the Pseudo Republic of Cyprus.


Do you claim Cyprus to be Turkish Eric?

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Pitsilia wrote:
Eric Dayi wrote:
vourka wrote:
Is the Pseudo State of Northern Cyprus unique to Cyprus or are there any others in the world?

Any knowledge of these may help us as a comparitive situation

Vourka


Yes, there is one and it's called the "Republic of Cyprus" but I and many others of course call it the Pseudo Republic of Cyprus.


Do you claim Cyprus to be Turkish Eric?

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Niow you are being totally stupid, we never claimed that the whole of Cyprus is Turkish and never tried to genocide the Greek Cypriots and take over the whole island although we have the menpower to do so. That is the exact opposite to what the Greek Cypriots did though, they did try to genocide us Turkish Cypriots and they did try to take over the whole island and have ENOSIS with Greece. The killing/genocide attempt of the Turkish Cypriots stopped only when Turkey INTERVENED and even then took controll of only 1 third of the island. The Turkish Army could have taken the whole island but they didn't because we Turks are not as greedy as the Greeks and Greek Cypriots. If the Turkish Army was to leave now, the Greek Cypriots will try once again to take over the whole of the island, which is what they have been trying to do all along any way and is still their ultimate dream, and force us Turkish Cypriots to become second class citizens in our own country just like the way the Turks in Greece are treated who are not even allowed to call themselves Turkish by LAW.

If you have the urge to make stupid comments like the one above, don't let me stop you. Wink Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


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