Rousias, You mentioned that 200,000 Cypriots were displaced and forced to flee from their homes, do you include Turkish Cypriots in that figure?. it has been documented elsewhere the attrocities carried out by the likes of EOKA (A + B), not trying to forget the doubtless retaliation metered out by the TC's.
i'd hoped that i'd found a forum where someone would admit that Yes, EONOSİS was the master plan and that the best method towards acheiving that goal was the Genocide of the Turkish Cypriots.

Sitting on the fence i can see how annoyed the GC's are that an influx of new settlers came over from Turkey and the presence of a large no. of Military but given previous history of our 2 nationalities to be unable to live together peaceably, can you really blame them?, Has it been worth it?, 32 YEARS OF PEACE.......................

We could argue these points until we are both blue in the face, would it change anything?. any resulution to ''THE CYPRUS PROBLEM'', will not be made by you or i, but by some faceless politicians whose sole motivation is money.

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Rousias, You mentioned that 200,000 Cypriots were displaced and forced to flee from their homes, do you include Turkish Cypriots in that figure?.

How many TC's were displaced? TC's were only some 18% of the population? I ask again how many were displaced?

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it has been documented elsewhere the attrocities carried out by the likes of EOKA (A + B), not trying to forget the doubtless retaliation metered out by the TC's.

the objectives of EOKA are subjective. Also not all GC's supported EOKA. thirdly, what about the TMT and their terrorist initiatives and objectives?

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i'd hoped that i'd found a forum where someone would admit that Yes, EONOSİS was the master plan and that the best method towards acheiving that goal was the Genocide of the Turkish Cypriots.

ENOSIS was the plan and objective of EOKA and only some GC's not all

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Sitting on the fence i can see how annoyed the GC's are that an influx of new settlers came over from Turkey and the presence of a large no. of Military but given previous history of our 2 nationalities to be unable to live together peaceably, can you really blame them?, Has it been worth it?, 32 YEARS OF PEACE.......................

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I disagree, there is alot of evidents that indicates GC's and TC's lived togethor in peace. I also know TC's that have no problem with GC's and have been friends for decades and decades, and continue to be friends . .

No it hasnt been worth it: It has been completely unecessary and has had other objectives . .7000 killed, 1600 missing persons, 200,000 people losing forced from thier homes and land for what you call peace?? Countless violations of human rights and countless war crimes with no justice being served . . No it has not been worth it

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We could argue these points until we are both blue in the face, would it change anything?. any resulution to ''THE CYPRUS PROBLEM'', will not be made by you or i, but by some faceless politicians whose sole motivation is money.

All we can do is voice our concerns

Faceless politicians and aggresive military forces are what have caused and continue to cause these problems

Best
Rousias

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Rousias, You mentioned that 200,000 Cypriots were displaced and forced to flee from their homes, do you include Turkish Cypriots in that figure?

Ttoli, no i do not include TC's in this figure . . the 200,000 i am referring to are GC's that forced from their homes were made refugees in their own coutnry

18% eh?, so (by your figures), we have at least 10,000 TC's displaced and made refugees in their own country living in tented citıes out in the country and any aid that was sent out to them via the Red cross was blocked, lets not forget they were forced to live in these conditions for a number of years, these actions were observed by British Soldiers who much like the UN were forbidden to intervene. So much is made of the occupied GC land and houses in the North but what of the TC land in the south??, can you really think that a TC would want to live back there with the Greek propaganda machine working overtime?.

For all those who spout BRİTISH THEİVES WATCH OUT, NOT ALL LAND İN CYPRUS WAS G/C OWNED!!!


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18% eh?, so (by your figures), we have at least 10,000 TC's displaced and made refugees in their own country living in tented citıes out in the country and any aid that was sent out to them via the Red cross was blocked, lets not forget they were forced to live in these conditions for a number of years, these actions were observed by British Soldiers who much like the UN were forbidden to intervene. So much is made of the occupied GC land and houses in the North but what of the TC land in the south??, can you really think that a TC would want to live back there with the Greek propaganda machine working overtime?.

For all those who spout BRİTISH THEİVES WATCH OUT, NOT ALL LAND İN CYPRUS WAS G/C OWNED!!!

NO! I said that 18% of the pop was TC's . . i did not say 10,000 TC's were displaced . .

does 200,000 displaced GC's have any significance to you?? after all they do make up 80% of the pop . .
I have sympathy for the displaced TC's both in the norht and south and am of the belief that a solution will need to also compensate them as well..

Rousias, i do agree that far more GC's were displaced than TC's but it seems the norm on theses forums that most GC's and Greeks will deny that there was any wrong doing by ther countrymen.
The figures i took as a very rough 18% of the 200,000.


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some may deny it and others may put it in proportion and scale . . Where was the substantial damage felt? By far by the GC's . .whether this is denied or not, the facts will stand . .The TC's they too did suffer and experienced unfair losses . . this should all be put in perspective.. the strengths and merits of the debate however heavily lean toward the GC's[/code]

Yeah the TC's were displaced ... into GC homes which were not theirs!


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And all the TC land in the south has remained untouched?


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And all the TC land in the south has remained untouched?

so you admit stealing our land and houses.

provide this forum with some evidence to support your argument... where specifically were TC's in the south displaced? from where to where?


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