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I think that it has already reached her ten fold. Her racist rantings are proof of a poisoned, wretched soul with a miserable station in life. I feel sorry for you and your hateful kind.

THESE PERSONAL ATTACKS ARE NOT WELCOME ON THIS FORUM.. Your language is disgusting and HAS NO RELEVANCE!

Your evil comments of 'reaching you ten fold', in light of the consequenses if the invasion are not to be tolerated!

Your disrespect and loss of control toward Maria really just shows that you have no basis to argue..

If you are going to reply then please do not personally attack other members!

You have no mercy and no remorse! If you are going to reply then attempt to answer the question!

Rousias

Maria the racist insults all TC and that is fine but when we call her what she is a RACIST you object, YOU HYPOCRITE.

BURY YOUR HEADS IN THE SAND.

it seems that Turkey has had their heads buried in the sand for 32 years with ignorant attempts to illegally colonise the illegally occupied norhern part

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I would like to remind you that 30 years of negotiation were put on the table as Annan Plan (number 5). This plan was endorsed by GREECE, ENGLAND, AMERICA, EUROPEAN UNION, TURKEY and the UNITED NATIONS. We accepted this plan to re unify Cyprus but it was the Greek Cypriots who overwhelmingly rejected this plan in the 2004 referendum, as they were directed to do by Tassos Papadopolous.

Dear SP

Clearly this tells you that the Annan Plan was a failure as it was rejected with a NO vote of somewhere around a confident 75%

What do you mean, the Cypriot people....

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....were directed to do by Tassos Papadopolous

Cyprus is a DEMOCRACY WITH FREEDOM OF VOTE, The 75% NO Vote was THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE

The plan SIMPLY DID NOT PROVIDE JUSTICE AND A VIABLE SOLUTION

As you put it, the Annan Plan was...

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...overwhelmingly rejected

Vourka

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Eoka, as a terrorist organisation, killed many greek Cypriots, British and Turkish Cypriots. They started in 1955 and continued in one form or another at least until 1968. Not all Greek Cypriots or British or Turkish Cypriots are bad people. ALL suffered at the hands of EOKA.

EOKA was not a terrorist organisation, they were a movement and part of a civil war within Cyprus that happened for some very important reasons . . For you to label them a terrorist organisation is completely ignoring the what real terrorism was - The invasion by Turkey in 1974. That was REAL TERROR, PLAIN AND UGLY WITH CONSEQUENCES ON A MORE HORRIFIC AND LARGER AND MORE SEVER SCALE

Vourka

vourka wrote:

SP wrote..

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Eoka, as a terrorist organisation, killed many greek Cypriots, British and Turkish Cypriots. They started in 1955 and continued in one form or another at least until 1968. Not all Greek Cypriots or British or Turkish Cypriots are bad people. ALL suffered at the hands of EOKA.

EOKA was not a terrorist organisation, they were a movement and part of a civil war within Cyprus that happened for some very important reasons . . For you to label them a terrorist organisation is completely ignoring the what real terrorism was - The invasion by Turkey in 1974. That was REAL TERROR, PLAIN AND UGLY WITH CONSEQUENCES ON A MORE HORRIFIC AND LARGER AND MORE SEVER SCALE

Vourka

Internationally EOKA is recognised as a terrorist organisation, wether you like it or not and their crimes are very well recorded internationally.

vourka wrote:

SP wrote..

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I would like to remind you that 30 years of negotiation were put on the table as Annan Plan (number 5). This plan was endorsed by GREECE, ENGLAND, AMERICA, EUROPEAN UNION, TURKEY and the UNITED NATIONS. We accepted this plan to re unify Cyprus but it was the Greek Cypriots who overwhelmingly rejected this plan in the 2004 referendum, as they were directed to do by Tassos Papadopolous.

Dear SP

Clearly this tells you that the Annan Plan was a failure as it was rejected with a NO vote of somewhere around a confident 75%

What do you mean, the Cypriot people....

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....were directed to do by Tassos Papadopolous

Cyprus is a DEMOCRACY WITH FREEDOM OF VOTE, The 75% NO Vote was THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE

The plan SIMPLY DID NOT PROVIDE JUSTICE AND A VIABLE SOLUTION

As you put it, the Annan Plan was...

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...overwhelmingly rejected

Vourka

Hello Vourka

This simply means that 25% of Greek Cypriots ( Not Cypriots) had some common sense and voted FOR re=unification.

Papadopolous on his return from negotiations, where he lied to his counterparts suggesting he supported the plan, then went on television to urge his fellow Greek Cypriotsto to say NO in the referendum. It is clearly documented by UN that the Pro Unification Lobby were not given any air time on either the state (TPaps) run Television OR radio.

Ex president Glafcos Clerides endorsed the Annan plan. Are you suggesting that this man wants bad things for his country????

Even the Cypriot Orthodox Church, threatened excommunication to those who would vote YES

This was disgraceful manipulation of the population.

Please do not misunderstand me. There were some Turkish Cypriot idiots too, who voted NO to the plan.

Had the Plan been put into place , by now a third of the land mass under Turkish Cypriot control would have been returned to Greek Cypriot control and minimally 50% of the GC "refugees" would have had their properties back AND the others would at least be half way down the road to getting decent compensation for their suffering.

I'm afraid the only thing that the OXI vote proves was that the GC's were prepared to cut off their noses to spite their faces.


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Also you must add that no one recognises Cyprus as a Greek or Hellenic island and never will and its current so called goverment is running illegally without the tc representation.

It is not in the sense that it has its own republic and it is not the same country as Greece. The majority population is Greek Cypriot. The culture of the GC's has and always will be strong, even under the most threatfull military forces. Turkish Cypriots (approx 18% of the pop) and other races born in Cyprus and that are citizens are also classed as Cypriot, as with most countries - there are many races and cultures that are citizens of that country

rousias

sp

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Had the Plan been put into place , by now a third of the land mass under Turkish Cypriot control would have been returned to Greek Cypriot control and minimally 50% of the GC "refugees" would have had their properties back AND the others would at least be half way down the road to getting decent compensation for their suffering.

I'm afraid the only thing that the OXI vote proves was that the GC's were prepared to cut off their noses to spite their faces.

no sp 50% percent of greek Cypriots getting there property back is like saying we will give you back half of what we stole in 1974 the turks have to give back all the Greek Cypriots refugees homes shows how unfair and unjust the plan was to Greek Cypriots. its like saying if i stole something from you i give half back of what i stole is that fair?

SP you have a nerve using the OXI vote for you to justify the illegal occupation of Cyprus you use the NO vote for your evil agenda now dont try and blame greek Cypriots for voting NO the plan was unfair and did not give the greek Cypriots there rights to there property also it meant the turkish military to stay in the north. dont use the NO vote to justify your crimes it wont work

sp

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Even the Cypriot Orthodox Church, threatened excommunication to those who would vote YES

did you know sp that a greek priest also critised the NO voters by saying it was un christian of them to vote NO not that i agreed with that preist but i think your lying about the Cypriot orthodox church threatening to excommunicate the yes voters

Hello Maria

First of all let me say I don't lie on sensitive topics as we discuss here. In other words I do not make up stories to suit my subject.

Secondly let me say that if you respond to a post of mine like you did this time I will simply refuse to answer you. You are being rude and brash. An apology would be in order.

However, the facts. Simply put, more greek Cypriots would have got what they wanted if the Annan Plan had gone ahead, Including a sizeable reduction in the number of Turkish soldiers on the island, than they have now.

Now they are where they were in 1976. Nowhere. This is not your island and your island alone. Your father and his brothers started marginalising and discriminating against the Turkish Cypriot community in Cyprus in the late fifties and early sixties.
They escalated the situation until the point where Turkey was obliged to intervene Militarily, first in 1968 and then again in 1974.

The Greek Cypriot Community and the Greek Junta simply did not expect the reaction they got from Turkey at that time.

They thought that perhaps there would be another sortie by Turkish jets and that would be it.

They got more than they bargained for!.

I fully expect a response from you along the lines of Barbaric raping Turks etc.etc.etc.

But what you need to understand in very simple terms is that your side started it and our cousins in Turkey finished it. That doesn't make it right but that is the way it is.

Until the Greek Cypriots begin a REAL dialogue with the Turkish Cypriots that is the way its going to STAY.