xenos wrote . .

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Have you ever thought of why everything is in disrepair? It's called EMBARGOES. You do not support any economic sanctions to be lifted and then you have the audacity to come here and talk about the lack of maintenance of the north. I am sorry that the TCs do not have a money tree in their backyard.

LIFT EMBARGOES NOW!!!!!

Xenos, why should embargoes and economic sanctions be lifted? Firstly, Turkey's reaons for illegally occupying is for peace keeping? WIth attempts to lift embargoes we are seeing further attempts to illegally colonise . .

It is bad enough that there are thousands of illegal settlers shipped over from Turkey

I DO NOT support lifting embargoes NO WAY!

You make no justifications!

Rousias

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i do not support economic sanctions to be lifted infact i think it should be sanctioned more if the TC's want the embargos to end then they should tell the illegal Turkey Army to leave they are suffering from embargos from there own consquenses but you cant use the excuse that the lack of maintenance is due to the embargo because Turkey gets lots of financial Aid from America and infact the lack of maintenace does not bother me at all what bothers me is the illegal settlers and the turkish military they should leave now i dont beleive in negociations until Turkey pulls out its military and illegal settlers or they should be sanctioned and also Turkey itself should be sanctioned

Maria I Fully support your argument: Turkey is already illegally occupying and now they are trying to illegally colonise: THIS WILL BE A STEP BACKWARD IN FINDING A SOLUTION!!!!!!!

Rousias

rousia
yes turkey is illegally occupying and trying to colonies illegally they should be goning forward not backwards since they want to join the EU

Boys and Girls,

Let us for a moment accept your hypothesis that Turkey is indeed illegally occupying Cyprus, or part of it at least.

What are you going to do about it? What can you do about it? Ranting and Raving on this Forum will not get you any further in your desires to remove this Foreign Invader.

Unfortunately you will have to talk to your enemy and convince him with good deeds that indeed he is free to go. Instaed you threaten with a veto for EU membership. You do not come up with an acceptable solution for Cyprus. Instead you enjoy the benefits of EU membership and cry your crocodile tears. All the way to the bank. You lost the war you started,but it hasn't sunken in yet.

The only leverage the GC's have over Cyprus is Turkey's membership of the EU. If that goes you will never get anything back at all. Stop crying and THINK.

SP wrote:

Boys and Girls,

Let us for a moment accept your hypothesis that Turkey is indeed illegally occupying Cyprus, or part of it at least.

What are you going to do about it? What can you do about it? Ranting and Raving on this Forum will not get you any further in your desires to remove this Foreign Invader.

Unfortunately you will have to talk to your enemy and convince him with good deeds that indeed he is free to go. Instaed you threaten with a veto for EU membership. You do not come up with an acceptable solution for Cyprus. Instead you enjoy the benefits of EU membership and cry your crocodile tears. All the way to the bank. You lost the war you started,but it hasn't sunken in yet.

The only leverage the GC's have over Cyprus is Turkey's membership of the EU. If that goes you will never get anything back at all. Stop crying and THINK.

Could not have said it better myself. One thing to add. In addition to what SP has written above, you have also engaged in a propaganda campaing (like this forum) to make Turkey look as the sole aggressor in the war. I was very much for the unification of your island untill I met people like you. I know that you are the minority but look what your minority was able to achieve up until the intervention.

Xenos wrote:

SP wrote:

Boys and Girls,

Let us for a moment accept your hypothesis that Turkey is indeed illegally occupying Cyprus, or part of it at least.

What are you going to do about it? What can you do about it? Ranting and Raving on this Forum will not get you any further in your desires to remove this Foreign Invader.

Unfortunately you will have to talk to your enemy and convince him with good deeds that indeed he is free to go. Instaed you threaten with a veto for EU membership. You do not come up with an acceptable solution for Cyprus. Instead you enjoy the benefits of EU membership and cry your crocodile tears. All the way to the bank. You lost the war you started,but it hasn't sunken in yet.

The only leverage the GC's have over Cyprus is Turkey's membership of the EU. If that goes you will never get anything back at all. Stop crying and THINK.

Could not have said it better myself. One thing to add. In addition to what SP has written above, you have also engaged in a propaganda campaing (like this forum) to make Turkey look as the sole aggressor in the war. I was very much for the unification of your island untill I met people like you. I know that you are the minority but look what your minority was able to achieve up until the intervention.

Well said by both of you.

brothers post..

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Xenos wrote:

SP wrote:
Boys and Girls,

Let us for a moment accept your hypothesis that Turkey is indeed illegally occupying Cyprus, or part of it at least.

What are you going to do about it? What can you do about it? Ranting and Raving on this Forum will not get you any further in your desires to remove this Foreign Invader.

Unfortunately you will have to talk to your enemy and convince him with good deeds that indeed he is free to go. Instaed you threaten with a veto for EU membership. You do not come up with an acceptable solution for Cyprus. Instead you enjoy the benefits of EU membership and cry your crocodile tears. All the way to the bank. You lost the war you started,but it hasn't sunken in yet.

The only leverage the GC's have over Cyprus is Turkey's membership of the EU. If that goes you will never get anything back at all. Stop crying and THINK.



Could not have said it better myself. One thing to add. In addition to what SP has written above, you have also engaged in a propaganda campaing (like this forum) to make Turkey look as the sole aggressor in the war. I was very much for the unification of your island untill I met people like you. I know that you are the minority but look what your minority was able to achieve up until the intervention.


Well said by both of you.

Brother (and Xenos and SP)...

Couldnt of said it better yourself? If you are going to make good arguments then I am afraid you will need to do much better than this. I mean seriously, I you have your opinion that is fine but please substantiate and justify yourselves with the right perspective in your arguments.

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What are you going to do about it? What can you do about it?

simply show that you do not accept what is right and what is ethical and beyond this what is illegal and in violation of human rights! You do not care and are selfish to say the least. You are pointing the finger at Cyprus for no solution? Has it ever occured to you that Turkey is caused major problems in reaching a solution? Cyprus is rightfully in the EU and they have worked EXTREMELY hard for it...
There are MANY MANY good reasons why Turkey in not in the EU (including the illegal invasion and illegal occupation of norhtern Cyprus).

You know as well as I do and yet you spitefully and jealously bring up Cyprus's membership to the EU? It is a sad day when we hear more careless comments such as

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The only leverage the GC's have over Cyprus is Turkey's membership of the EU. If that goes you will never get anything back at all. Stop crying and THINK.

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you enjoy the benefits of EU membership and cry your crocodile tears. All the way to the bank.

I really am not sure if you are kids or are just blind hypocirtes? One thing for sure, I encourage you to think a bit deeper and adopt some other perspectives to the Cyprus Problem. This discussion is for intellectual debate that may in some way evolve to an understanding for a viable solution..

Lastly, SP wrote ..

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you have also engaged in a propaganda campaing (like this forum) to make Turkey look as the sole aggressor in the war. I was very much for the unification of your island untill I met people like you.

Call it what you like but its not Propoganda. The information you are referring to is REAL and is TRUE . . one can see in the photos and by the factual info in the posts . .These are important things to know. Are you ashamed or embarrased? I myself have strong arguments that you must factor in . . THIS IS ALL PART OF THE DEBATE AND CONTROVERSY. You also have the freedom to make posts that may strengthen your arguments . . SP you say that people like me put you of the idea of reunification? In that case I hope you are learning alot as this tells me there is alot you dont know. . .

All Northern Turkish Cypriots will benefit from reunification and the removal of Turkish troops and illegal settlers: Economically and Socially!

Rousias

Rousias,

You forget that the GC have yet to arrest one person for the atrocities you committed against the TC hence may i suggest that you watch "The voice of Blood".

http://mediaif.emu.edu.tr/pages/tony/


Directed by a honest Gc who was fed up of being lied too and after he made the 2 documentaries he has been threatened daily by GC for telling the truth.

http://movies2.nytimes.com/gst/movies/movie.html?v_id=337915

Time to wake up Rousias and get off your high horse.

Hello Rousias

I suggest that you re-read my post and sort out what I said and what was not said by me.

Secondly re-read my post again and try to understand my meaning more clearly.

If you feel that I have not made myself clear then please feel free to question the parts of MY post that you feel you would like me to explain again.

Regards

Hello SP

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SP wrote ..

you have also engaged in a propaganda campaing (like this forum) to make Turkey look as the sole aggressor in the war. I was very much for the unification of your island untill I met people like you.

Are you referring to this statement SP or the other parts of the post?

Rousias