we are not demonising Turks... however, their actions over the last 32 years do not do them any justice in our perceptions of Turks today. can you blame the Cypriot people?

i agree with NZCypriot


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Turkish Troops Out of Cyprus

Hi All

I am anti Turkish military and government - most certianly!!

The facts tell the story of an ILLEGAL and VIOLATING invasion and continued unjustifiable occupation by Turkey of Northern Cyprus.

I blame Turkey for the terror and termoil that has provided a living hell for the surviving Greek Cypriots..

I do not have so much resent toward REAL Turkish Cypriot People as they were rightfully in Cyprus, living happily with Greek Cypriots before the Invasion

Regards
Vourka

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As Xenos says these photos are not rare but presumably quite accurate. As a military operation the landing of Turkish Forces in Cyprus was quite an undertaking and clearly had to be planned in detail. It is a real shame that this had to happen at all but the situation at the time allowed Turkey all the provocation she needed. As for the images, well they speak for themselves, these are images of soldiers going to war, as seen all over the world.

Hello Vourka

I appreciate your comment but I must disabuse you of it's veracity. Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot were not living in peace with each other before the events of 1974. Ask your parents or do some research before making such an incorrect statement.

Dear SP

Thanks for your reply. How can you make such an assertive point. I am sure that this is a very subjective issue. My parents and other elders have explained to me that this was the case. I have also heard reports from Turkish people that they were happy living with the Greeks as neighbours before the invasion.

I you know otherwise then please enlighten us

Best
Vourka

vourka wrote:

Dear SP

Thanks for your reply. How can you make such an assertive point. I am sure that this is a very subjective issue. My parents and other elders have explained to me that this was the case. I have also heard reports from Turkish people that they were happy living with the Greeks as neighbours before the invasion.

I you know otherwise then please enlighten us

Best
Vourka

Hello Vourka

Yes I am sure of many things. One is that indeed some Turk Cypriots and Greek Cypriots were living in harmony pre 1974.

Another is that the United Nations came to the Island in 1964, in response tothe intercommunal fighting on the island.

And one more is the following list of SOME of the Turkish Cypriots murdered by EOKA gunmen in 1963.

TURKISH CYPRIOTS WHO PERISHED IN 1963

Name (Age) Place Date
Ali Osman (53) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 31.12.1963
Ahmet Kara Ali (50) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 25.12.1963
Osman Hüdaverdi (33) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 25.12.1963
Seyit Hüseyin (37) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 27.12.1963
Ali Mehmet (24) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 27.12.1963
Turgut Hasan (23) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 27.12.1963
Hasan Hüsnü (40) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 26.12.1963
Osman Cevdet (45) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 26.12.1963
S¸ükrü S¸evki (44) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 26.12.1963
Hasan Hüseyin Çinko (23) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 27.12.1963
Hüseyin Mehmet Emin (22) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 29.12.1963
I?smail Mustafa (2 Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 29.12.1963
Turgut Fahri (24) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 29.12.1963
Kemal Ahmet Koççino (45) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 26.12.1963
I?rfan Mehmet (24) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 26.12.1963
Ömer Hasan Debreli (46) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 26.12.1963
I?brahim Ahmet (60) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 29.12.1963
Osman Dervis¸ (50) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 26.12.1963
S¸ükrü Tevfik (39) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 30.12.1963
Sezai Nidai (23) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 31.12.1963
Cemal Hüseyin Arifog<breve>lu (26) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 31.12.1963
Erdem Mehmet (24) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 26.12.1963
Münür Yusuf (29) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 27.12.1963
Hüseyin Mustafa Vreççal? (39) Küçükkaymakl? / Lefkos¸a 27.12.1963
Ays¸e Hasan Buba (49) Ayvas?l/Ay. Vasilios 24.12.1963
Ays¸e I?brahim (11) Ayvas?l/Ay. Vasilios 24.12.1963
Bayram Hasan (70) Ayvas?l/Ay. Vasilios 24.12.1963
Hüseyin Cemal (1 Ayvas?l/Ay. Vasilios 24.12.1963
I?smail Mustafa (70) Ayvas?l/Ay. Vasilios 24.12.1963
Mehmet Ali Ömer (54) Ayvas?l/Ay. Vasilios 24.12.1963
Mehmet Hasan Buba (85) Ayvas?l/Ay. Vasilios 24.12.1963
Mustafa I?smail (37) Ayvas?l/Ay. Vasilios 24.12.1963
Ömer Hasan (19) Ayvas?l/Ay. Vasilios 24.12.1963
Ömer Mehmet Ali (65) Ayvas?l/Ay. Vasilios 24.12.1963
Hasan Mehmet Kabaday? (17) Ayvas?l/Ay. Vasilios 24.12.1963
Niyazi Cemal (39) Aredhiou Köyü 27.12.1963
Salih Mehmet (55) Aredhiou Köyü 29.12.1963
Kemal Hüseyin (34) Aredhiou Köyü 29.12.1963
Nail Hüseyin (19) Aredhiou Köyü 29.12.1963
Ali Fuat Mustafa (49) Büyükkonuk / Lefkos¸a 31.12.1963
Halil Mustafa Kemiksiz (44) Büyükkonuk / Lefkos¸a 31.12.1963
I?brahim Durmus¸ Musa (60) Büyükkonuk / Lefkos¸a 31.12.1963
Mustafa Mulla Hüseyin (27) Mutluyaka-Larnaka Yolu 27.12.1963
Dervis¸ Mehmet (39) Lefkos¸a-Kotchati Yolu 24.12.1963
Erdog<breve>an Ahmet (29) Eylenja Junstion 31.12.1963
Hasan Y?lmaz (25) Eylenja Junstion 31.12.1963
Hasan Ahmet Skordo (41) Eylenja Junstion 31.12.1963
Hasan Mehmet (35) Eylenja Junstion 31.12.1963
Hüseyin Osman (31) Erenköy-Trimithi 28.12.1963
Hüseyin I?brahim (21) Kotchiati-Nisou Yolu 25.12.1963
Cemal Mustafa (21) Kotchiati-Nisou Yolu 25.12.1963
Hüseyin Mehmet Buba (50) Dhali-Lefkos¸a yolu 26.12.1963
Mehmet Osman Belligari (55) Lourudjina-Dhai yolu 27.12.1963
Ramadan Ahmet (22) Tera-Arodhes yolu 29.12.1963
Süleyman Hüseyin Aspri (44) Larnaca 27.12.1963
S¸evket Cemal (34) Akaki köyü 23.12.1963
S¸ahap S¸emi (40) Larnaca Police Station 26.12.1963
Vas?f Hasan (25) Lefkos¸a 18.12.1963
I?brahim Nidai (32) Kyrenia-Lapithos yolu 25.12.1963
S¸evket Kadir (24) Kyrenia-Lapithos yolu 25.12.1963
Özay Said (25) Lefkos¸a 24.12.1963
Hasan Nural Cevdet (24) Erenköy-trimithia 28.12.1963
Özer Ekrem Emin (27) Erenköy-trimithia 28.12.1963
Ahmet Osman (32) Erenköy-trimithia 28.12.1963
Mustafa Ali (23) Lefkos¸a Hava Alan? 23.12.1963
Hüseyin Ali (47) Agis Farm-Mia Milia 21.12.1963
Mehmet Raif (4 Lefkos¸a 22.12.1963
Ramadan I?smail (21) Ay.Demetrianos Farm 21.12.1963
Ali Mustafa (50) Lefkos¸a Havaalan? Bölg. 23.12.1963
Vasit Mustafa (29) Lefkos¸a 22.12.1963
Mustafa Arif (41) Lefkos¸a Genel Hast. 22.12.1963
Behçet Mehmet (20) Tokni bölgesi 29.12.1963
Mustafa Mehmet (2 Tokni bölgesi 29.12.1963
Fikret Hüseyin Tokni bölgesi 29.12.1963
Salih Ahmet Düztaban (35) Ay.Sozomenos bölgesi 30.12.1963
Yakup Ali Çavus¸ (45) Lefkos¸a Havaalan? 24.12.1963
Hüseyin Yalç?n (23) Ay.Marina Köyü 24.12.1963


(Thanks to brother btw)

The Turkish Military had illegitimate support and unethical involvement from the US and Britain whilst illegally invading Cyprus in 1974

This support was military support and, like the photos above, it was VERY STRATEGIC AND VERY WELL PLANNED AND EXECUTED. .

The invading Turkish forces supported (secretly) by the US and Britain left Cyprus with NO CHANCE TO DEFEND ITSELF.. . Peace Keeping or Terrorism ? ?

I am sure there is alot of dirt around this issue so comment are welcome

Best
Rousias

Hello rousias

It's a tough old world.

Turkey , on this occassion probably had the implicit support of the Americans , but certainly not of the British. Bulent Ecevit while in London discussing the Cyprus situation with Foreign Minister Callaghan, ( Both as respective Guarantor Nations) was warned off by said Foreign Minister and threatened with the F16 fighters based in Akrotiri and a regiment of Ghurka soldiers , based at that time in Cyprus.. Clearly this would have been after the overthrow of Makarios on 15th July 1974. The rest, as you know, is history.

All governmentys manipulate their mass media to stay in power. All have hidden agendas. The Americans at this time were even worse than they are today in interfering in world politics.

But do not forget the Russians and their involvement, pro Greek Cyprus.

PS Turkey did not Illegally invade Cyprus, but had the right as a Guarantor Nation to intervene to ensure that the 1960 Constitution was kept intact.

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PS Turkey did not Illegally invade Cyprus, but had the right as a Guarantor Nation to intervene to ensure that the 1960 Constitution was kept intact.

They ABUSED THIS RIGHT! You know fair well! The INVASION BECAME ILLEGAL DUE TO ITS PLAN / NATURE/ OBJECTIVES! I mean look at the bloodbath/evictions/killings/rapings/thieving/looting/destruction/illegaly occupation/illegal colonisation ETC ETC ETC ETC . .

They are still illegally occupying 32 years later . . YOUR STATEMENT HAS NO SUBSTANCE . .

Your other info was good . .confirmed alot of what i have heard

Rousias

Rousias

My stuff is very good because I do the research.

I also try and keep emotion OUT of my posts because it intereferes with the facts.

Again let me reiterate Both sides suffered barbaric losses, rapes, property losses etc etc etc .

Greek Cypriots DO NOT have a monopoly on pain in the Cyprob.