Dear all

The Annan Plan for a solution to the Cyprus problem didnt work. Cyprus democratically voted 75% againts the plan. This was clear 'NO'/OXI and proved that the plan was unacceptabe and not viable nor workable. It makes you think what the UN and diplomatic and political figures have been doing these last 32 years? . .A 75% NO vote is a Clear rejection of the plan.

Where to from here?

Rousias

Hello Rousias

May I ask you what makes you think you will get a better plan???

SP wrote

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Hello Rousias

May I ask you what makes you think you will get a better plan???

SP

The sad thing is that I am in fear that we WILL NOT get a better plan! That worries me very much. I hope that there is a strong enough movement that can achieve a viable and practical plan

rousias wrote:

SP wrote

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Hello Rousias

May I ask you what makes you think you will get a better plan???

SP

The sad thing is that I am in fear that we WILL NOT get a better plan! That worries me very much. I hope that there is a strong enough movement that can achieve a viable and practical plan

Hello Rousias

Sometimes, in Business, an entrepreneur will "cut his losses". That means he will sell up , perhaps at a loss in order to minimise his losses. Often individuals will choose the lesser of two evils when no positive alternative is available.

The next plan put forward will be rejected by the Turkish Cypriots, irrespective of what it says, It is part of the game. The plan AFTER the next one is the one that MUST be accepted by both sides, for this land to be re-united and to see the beginning of Turkish military withdrawal.

The difficulty is now to convince BOTH sides of the merits of re-unification. I am not trying to be funny, because a lot of people on both sides are really quite happy with the status quo. Including many many politicians.

So far I haven't said anything to my young daughter about the Cyprob and she hasn't asked. She knows there is a South and a North but that is about it. I personally, do not want, at some time in the future, to try and explain the Cyprus Problem to her. I would prefer that I didn't have to because there was no longer a problem!!!

Regards

Hello SP

Yes, clearly there is alot of logic in what you are saying. Naturally a status quo develops and innocent generations are born in to what they see as 'normal'. The longer this is left the more difficult things will become. . It is not fair on people like your daughter but a viable solution does not need to cause problems. A solution should also ensure that future generations in Cyprus prosper and are not held back in a military war zone with a green line running through it . .Why will the Turks reject the next plan? Is there any other reason? What do you envision the plan after that pragmatically encompasing?

vourka

Hello vourka

Understand that this is only my opinion.

The next plan will try and remedy some of the negative aspects ( from a GC point of view) in order to encourage the GC's to say YES. However the TC's believe that since they have already said YES to a plan that was thought to be fair by the world and his dog, except the GC's, they will say NO because they will argue that the plan has swung too much in favour of GC's.

TC's, Turky and EU feel "cheated" by the OXI vote and EU has not kept her promises to TC's for voting YES.

SO, the plan AFTER the next one will more likely succeed since this will appear to be a "fix" of the next plan.

It's all bullshit I hear you say, and fundamentally I agree with you.

There have been many lost opportunities, including Annan5, but the politicians on both sides have not shown "a will to compromise" in the past.. Most people make decisions with their emotions and then look for logic to support the decision that they have already made. They are also highly manipulable by the politicians through the media.

I am sure that I am not saying anything that you do not know already, except maybe TC feelings about it all.

Nothing will be happening soon. EU and US will find a way out for Turkey re her ports being opened to Cypriot traffic and the sun will continue to shine on our , once lovely, Mediterranean island. Kebab will continue to be grilled on Sundays etc etc. IMO the "ball" lies in the GC court, but is currently out of play.

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Nothing will be happening soon. EU and US will find a way out for Turkey re her ports being opened to Cypriot traffic and the sun will continue to shine on our , once lovely, Mediterranean island. Kebab will continue to be grilled on Sundays etc etc. IMO the "ball" lies in the GC court, but is currently out of play.

This is what I think too...Turkey will be judge on performance rather judgement on the Cyprus probem...But I think, and this is off topic, there are other major problems awaiting Turkey...My hunch is the October report will be defered to some time next year, regardless to what Paps says...

Turkey a country of 70 million, with a strong buying power may I add, will not be hold back by a country of 700,000...Otherwise there wouldn't be a Cyprus problem...

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Nothing will be happening soon. EU and US will find a way out for Turkey re her ports being opened to Cypriot traffic and the sun will continue to shine on our , once lovely, Mediterranean island. Kebab will continue to be grilled on Sundays etc etc. IMO the "ball" lies in the GC court, but is currently out of play.

This is what I think too...Turkey will be judge on performance rather judgement on the Cyprus probem...But I think, and this is off topic, there are other major problems awaiting Turkey...My hunch is the October report will be defered to some time next year, regardless to what Paps says...

Turkey a country of 70 million, with a strong buying power may I add, will not be hold back by a country of 700,000...Otherwise there wouldn't be a Cyprus problem...

Agreed with the above statements but make no mistake we cypriots still need to sort our houses out in the interim, and the first thing is finding our long overdue war criminals.

Here is a solution for Cyprus: Send all people like Maria to the Greek Embassy in Zambia.

Erm... Excuse me Xenos but I grew up In Zambia.

Not STRICTLY speaking true but I spent 6 years of my life in Northern Rhodesia which later became Zambia. On second thoughts you might be right