MARIA wrote:

xenos i guess you know all about nationlism you racist troy was greek to at the time

Can you read?

MARIA wrote:

SP there was aslo other people in Cyprus to when Greeks started settling in Cyprus there where pheonicians and assyrians to as well as Greeks but Greeks where one of the first settlers there along with the phoenicians and assyrians. Greek Culture in Cyprus is Ancient so Cyprus was always a greek island no matter how much you want to twist it to suit your pro Turk agenda infact not only was Cyprus Greek but also parts of Turkey where also Greek culture on them to.

Hello Maria

I have not used a web site to support my beliefs in the same way that you have here. You made a statement in a post and then showed a web address in support of your statement.

Unfortunately your source did not support what you wrere saying.

I have not twisted the truth to fit my Pro Turk agenda.

You tried to twist the "Truth" to suit your pro Greek agenda and completely cocked it up.

You claimed Cyprus was uninhabited when the Hellenic traders first came BUT your source does NOT support you.

I appreciate English may not be your mother tongue but it would be better if you read ALL the words in your sources before trying to use them to support your posts.

Regards

back on topic... "the destruction of churches and ancient artifacts by Turks in N cyprus"

here is an interesting read:

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"In the Turkish occupied part of Cyprus historical sites of 9,000-year old Cyprus culture have been systematically plundered since the 1974 invasion.

...There are only a few kilometers to the cape, the sacred place of Saint Andreas. Legend has it that in one of his missions here the Apostle pointed out a spring to the ship-crew, who had run out of water. Another legend says that he caused water to come out of rocks. Since the early Christian period, Christians regarded this area as holy - the patron saint of which is Apostle Andreas. His name means 'gallant, manly". In the 15th century the Lusignans built a gothic chapel for the Saint. The present building of the monastery was built in the 19th and 20th centuries.

Before the partition of the island many Greek Orthodox Christians came here on a pilgrimage. Today, the monastery is reminiscent of scenes from a surrealistic film: the large yard of the monastery is grimly empty. Two Turkish "policemen" are waiting to check and take down the personal details of tourists, who dared visit this distant and out of the way area.

Two old women are sitting under the arches surrounded by a large family of cats. The faint sound of a hymn is heard from the church. Four women and three men, all well-advanced in age, are attending mass. The interior of the church is magnificent. Those who did not see the decoration of the church before the war, would not realize that the most valuable icons were stolen from here too. The priest reads the gospel to the scant congregation, in a firm and steady voice. As during the centuries of Ottoman rule, the Greek Orthodox priest becomes today savior and guardian of Greek civilization and tradition. But for how much longer?"

source: http://www.hr-action.org/chr/Gallas01.html


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And what has happened to these artifacts, icons and churches?

I eagerly await your responses.


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Hello Pitsilia

Many things were different in 1990

You really should get more up to date sources.

As far as I am aware BOTH Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots have been found guilty of selling important Cypriot Icons in Europe and America.

Regards

SP wrote:

Hello Pitsilia

Many things were different in 1990

You really should get more up to date sources.

As far as I am aware BOTH Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots have been found guilty of selling important Cypriot Icons in Europe and America.

Regards

Hi SP,

What has changed since 1990? have artifacts been returned? have their been more sold?

Im sure there are guilty parties on both sides. However, GC's have lost a lot more than TC's in this instance i believe? All but 5 of the 500 Greek churches on the Nrth side have been destroyed. If you care to provide figures to support your argument i would be much obliged.

Regards


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Hello Pitsilia

Again, only as far as I am aware , the icons that were seized in Munich were returned to the south. and there are at least three Icon museums in the North where Icons collected from various churches are on display.

I am equally certain that there are still a number missing.

However the blame for these missing Icons does not lie with Turks and Turkish Cypriots alone. Greek Cypriots too have been responsible for the sale of Icons in Europe. As per the Munich arrests.

SP wrote:

Hello Pitsilia

Again, only as far as I am aware , the icons that were seized in Munich were returned to the south. and there are at least three Icon museums in the North where Icons collected from various churches are on display.

I am equally certain that there are still a number missing.

However the blame for these missing Icons does not lie with Turks and Turkish Cypriots alone. Greek Cypriots too have been responsible for the sale of Icons in Europe. As per the Munich arrests.

~The GC Euro MP Madsakis was arrested for artefact stealing when the found nearly 400 bits at his home and is awaiting trial if i am not wrong.

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The GC Euro MP Madsakis was arrested for artefact stealing when the found nearly 400 bits at his home and is awaiting trial if i am not wrong.

Brother, i am glad to hear that the respected MP is being put through the courts and that justice will prevail.

Turkey is also guilty of many similar crimes. On a larger scale, they have stolen, destroyed, and furthermore sold Cypriot artifacts from the north - These are herendous illegal acts of priceless artifacts . . How will justice be served here?

vourka wrote:

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The GC Euro MP Madsakis was arrested for artefact stealing when the found nearly 400 bits at his home and is awaiting trial if i am not wrong.

Brother, i am glad to hear that the respected MP is being put through the courts and that justice will prevail.

Turkey is also guilty of many similar crimes. On a larger scale, they have stolen, destroyed, and furthermore sold Cypriot artifacts from the north - These are herendous illegal acts of priceless artifacts . . How will justice be served here?

I do not believe that the Turkish state is responsible directly but scrupulous people that got access to North Cyprus after 1974 who happen to be Turkish.