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 Denktash and the Cyprus Problem
Can we have some opinions about the leadership style and effects of Dektash?
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| Sun Jun 18, 2006 7:38 am |
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Eric Dayi
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 Re: Denktash and the Cyprus Problem
Administrator wrote:Can we have some opinions about the leadership style and effects of Dektash?
A great leader of the Turkish Cypriots who had guts to stand firm against the Greek and Greek Cypriots and not give an inch. If it wasn't for the great man himself, the TRNC would not exist and there would be no Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus at all today. What can I say, the man is a born hero.
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| Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:58 am |
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Michael
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Quote:What can I say, the man is a born hero.
In my books once a hero always a heoro...
1...But in this case what exactly happened to this hero?...
2...And how come the people, 75% a matter of fact, disagreed with this hero?
3...How come Turkey dumbed this hero...
yes he must have been some kind of hero...
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| Sun Jun 18, 2006 1:02 pm |
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MARIA
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Dentash is a fat pig i hope he gets a heart attack soon his a killer butcher he was leader of the Turkish Cypriot Terrorist group TMT why do the TC's complain and lie about EOKA when being terrorist when there leader was Fat Dentash a former leader of the terrorist group TMT dentash should be in prison for his war crimes against Greek Cypriots.
Turkish Cypriots where the killers and murderers to Greek Cypriots before the Turkey invaded in 1974 and they try to lie about Greek Cypriots and EOKA they got what they deserved before 1974 becasue they where trying to take away Greek Cypriots rights throught the constitution but they have the nerve to blame Greek Cypriots i dont blame the Greek Cypriots for supporting EOKA agaisnt those turkish Cypriots killers
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| Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:51 pm |
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MARIA
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i am Proud of EOKA who had the guts stand up to turkish Cypriot murderers and liars
who tried to make Greek Cypriots 2nd class citizens in there own ancestral land also i am proud of EOKA for getting rid of the british colonist to
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| Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:55 pm |
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Eric Dayi
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Michael wrote:Quote:What can I say, the man is a born hero.
In my books once a hero always a heoro...
1...But in this case what exactly happened to this hero?...
2...And how come the people, 75% a matter of fact, disagreed with this hero?
3...How come Turkey dumbed this hero...
yes he must have been some kind of hero...
No one dumped Mr. Denktash Michael, you should now that. The Turkish Cypriots proved that they wanted to live in peace with their neighbours and Turkey supported them at the referandum. That's why 75% of TC's voted YES to the Annan Plan, unlike the GC's who believed the lies of TPaps and voted OXI. The GC's went against everyones wishes, even Greece adviced the GC's to vote YES but the GC's didn't.
After the referandum everyone realised the real intentions of the GC's and you can be 100% sure that out of the 75% about 74% will never vote YES ever again and no one expects us to do the same again.
Mr. Denktash is a hero and always will be a hero, in anyones books.
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| Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:59 pm |
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Michael
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Quote: No one dumped Mr. Denktash Michael, you should now that.
I think you have a very short memories at the events that took place prior to the ref...There is no secret that ther is no blood loss between the current Turkish administration and Dektash...Yes they dumped him...
Quote:The Turkish Cypriots proved that they wanted to live in peace with their neighbours and Turkey supported them at the referandum. That's why 75% of TC's voted YES to the Annan Plan, unlike the GC's who believed the lies of TPaps and voted OXI. The GC's went against everyones wishes, even Greece adviced the GC's to vote YES but the GC's didn't.
What the Turkish Cypriots, could be argued, voted yes because their current situation is unacceptable to them...The plan overall was better from waht they have today...In this scenario, I would also vote YES...On the other hand the Annan plan was voted down. because a lot depended on a lot of "ifs"....not mentioning loosing sovereignity of the island...In this case I would also vote NO...So you see you are looking at it from a one sided view....Its a bit more comlex than what you think...
Quote: After the referandum everyone realised the real intentions of the GC's and you can be 100% sure that out of the 75% about 74% will never vote YES ever again and no one expects us to do the same again.
This pure speculation, because we do not know what kind of plan is awaiting around the corner...
Quote:Mr. Denktash is a hero and always will be a hero, in anyones books.
Eric did you know that some people stilll consider Hitler their hero?...But that is not enough to be a hero in anyones books...
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| Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:02 am |
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Eric Dayi
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Michael wrote:Quote: No one dumped Mr. Denktash Michael, you should now that.
I think you have a very short memories at the events that took place prior to the ref...There is no secret that ther is no blood loss between the current Turkish administration and Dektash...Yes they dumped him...
Those events were marches for peace Michael while the Greek Cypriot leader was lying to the EU commision. Mr. Denktash knew what was going on on the GC side and their intentions. He can read the GC's like a book and knows every move they will make. That's why the GC's never managed to get even an inch from him, he stood his fround like the hero that he is.
Why do you think that Mr. Denktash didn't run for office again in 2004 Michael?
Michael wrote:Quote:The Turkish Cypriots proved that they wanted to live in peace with their neighbours and Turkey supported them at the referandum. That's why 75% of TC's voted YES to the Annan Plan, unlike the GC's who believed the lies of TPaps and voted OXI. The GC's went against everyones wishes, even Greece adviced the GC's to vote YES but the GC's didn't.
What the Turkish Cypriots, could be argued, voted yes because their current situation is unacceptable to them...The plan overall was better from waht they have today...In this scenario, I would also vote YES...On the other hand the Annan plan was voted down. because a lot depended on a lot of "ifs"....not mentioning loosing sovereignity of the island...In this case I would also vote NO...So you see you are looking at it from a one sided view....Its a bit more comlex than what you think...
Do you think that the GC's have sovereignty over the island Michael? If so, since when?
The TC's proved their intentions was peace by their YES vote Michael, despite what you think they voted YES for. The world sees it like that and that's what matters, not what the GC's think.
Michael wrote:Quote: After the referandum everyone realised the real intentions of the GC's and you can be 100% sure that out of the 75% about 74% will never vote YES ever again and no one expects us to do the same again.
This pure speculation, because we do not know what kind of plan is awaiting around the corner...
Quote:Mr. Denktash is a hero and always will be a hero, in anyones books.
Eric did you know that some people stilll consider Hitler their hero?...But that is not enough to be a hero in anyones books...
How dare you compare Hitler with Mr. Denktash. You would be better to compare Hitler with TPaps and his EOKA murdering pals whom the GC's and Greeks still consider as "heros" and give them medals. And don't tell me that the murdering EOKA members were heros and were fighting for freedom. They strarted murdering the British for ENOSIS and murdered innocent Turkish Cypriot men, women and children including the sick, the elderly and the disabled they proved themselves to be nothing but murdering terrorist scum for ENOSIS. That goes for EOKA-A and for EOKA-B. Those ordinary GC's and Greeks who joined the EOKA in their terrorism were no better than the murdering EOKA scums and thus became murdering terrorist scums too. They are no better than Hitler and his followers.
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| Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:40 am |
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Michael
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Dektash policies worked against Turkish and Turkish Cypriot interests…ie…RoC becoming a full member of the EU…I guess his crystal ball got a bit cloudy…
Quote:Why do you think that Mr. Denktash didn't run for office again in 2004 Michael?
Eric, because he would have lost?...Another legacy of the Dektash era…I remember clearly when the borders opened and everyone was getting RoC passports, Dektash called all these people traitors…And then his own flesh and blood gets one too…
I think people have had enough of Dektash and Co…The election and Turkey seen to that….How many times has Dektash visited Erdogan or Gul lately...lets say the last 2 years...
Quote: Do you think that the GC's have sovereignty over the island Michael? If so, since when?
What you and I think is irrelevant Eric…It’s the perception out there that counts…And yes today the RoC administration has sovereignty of the whole island…Look at the UN and the EU, as to who they see as the government of the RoC…Even the US said it quite recently…Along the lines that there is only one government in the RoC…No recognition for anything else…Help yes, but no recognition….
Quote: The TC's proved their intentions was peace by their YES vote Michael, despite what you think they voted YES for. The world sees it like that and that's what matters, not what the GC's think.
Well we can argue on this one until the cows home…The difference between my point and your point is I looked at it from both angles, while you are just looking at it from your position…
Quote: How dare you compare Hitler with Mr. Denktash
Just tell me how many TC died at his hands, after 1974...What happened to tassos Isaac and Solomos Solomou...Can you remember?...because the whole wide world seen the film clips...Have thes people been brought to justice by the Mr Dektash?...How about the interview when he admitted that a lot of GC died at the hands of TC, during and after 1974...Have these people ever been prosecuted by the Dektash and Co?...Equating Dektash with Hiter I think its a personal choice….Some people would consider the PKK as freedom fighters, or even go as far as say Ocalan is a hero…Nothing wrong with that….
But history tells us that a great man is for the rest of his life and he becomes greater in the after life…Today what we have is a dumped leader, firstly by his own people and secondly by the current Turkish administration…I am sure you can see this…
For example I would say Ataturk was a great leader…Can you equate Dektash at the same level?
As for the rest you are off topic, because this thread is about Dektash….
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| Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:23 am |
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rousias
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Quote:If it wasn't for the great man himself, the TRNC would not exist and there would be no Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus at all today. What can I say, the man is a born hero.
Eric, Dektash took corrupt steps in 1974 - The invasion was completely illegal with many consequences that commited to more illegal acts. The occupation remains illegal and is embarrasing Turkey by the day.
A better leader would have not acted with such supremacy and aggression . . A small effort to protect the TC's would have been fine . . But no Dektash has a string of WAR CRIMES ON CYPRUS! The FATE OF 1600 plus MISSINGS PERSONS, WHERE ARE THEY? For 3 decades DEKTASH DID NOT ACCOUNT FOR ONE OF THEM.
I also blame Dektash for Avoiding a solution to the Cyprus problem and the 200,000 plus people evicted from their homes and the thousands that lost loved ones.
And yet you refer to Dektash as a born hero ? ?
What are your thoughts on your current leader?
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