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"Beware of Greeks bearing gifts"

haha yes brother, that was the Cretans

The Ancient Greeks have a big history of wars such as the Trojan war. However modern Greece and more importantly here, Cyprus has had a history of defending themselves - Greece did not invade Cyprus . .Turkey did

Greece tried to invade Cyprus but Turkey stopped them you mean as that is what ILLEGAL GREEK JUNTA means and Greece also tried to invade Turkey at the begining of the 1900's and was stopped by the Turks again.

Greece in the only country in the world that has expanded in recent history and kept on trying to hence the cyprus issue and the expantionist policies of Greece are well known.

Brother how can you compare the actions of the Greek Junta to the Turkish Invasion of 1974 and the illegal occupation etc that followed? The scale and scope of the Turkish invasion was extremely horrific and had much larger effects and impacts by far . . this needs to be put in perspective

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Brother how can you compare the actions of the Greek Junta to the Turkish Invasion of 1974 and the illegal occupation etc that followed? The scale and scope of the Turkish invasion was extremely horrific and had much larger effects and impacts by far . . this needs to be put in perspective

I will say again that while i look for a united solution for the Cyprus problem the actions of Turkey were in response to the actions of Greece and the GC, remember over 25% of the TC community lived in ghetto's in inhumane conditions for 11 years and that was horrific and the impacts of the actions of Greece and the GC are still felt today.

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vourka wrote:
Brother how can you compare the actions of the Greek Junta to the Turkish Invasion of 1974 and the illegal occupation etc that followed? The scale and scope of the Turkish invasion was extremely horrific and had much larger effects and impacts by far . . this needs to be put in perspective


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I will say again that while i look for a united solution for the Cyprus problem the actions of Turkey were in response to the actions of Greece and the GC, remember over 25% of the TC community lived in ghetto's in inhumane conditions for 11 years and that was horrific and the impacts of the actions of Greece and the GC are still felt today.

Yes, but the response of Turkey was not in response to this - they did not intervene to resolve this - They used this as an excure to go on a killing rampage, to evict of 200,000 people from their homes, to kill thousands, etc etc this list goes on and to illegally occupy 37.5% of the island . . THIS IS NOT PROTECTING THE TC's

rousias wrote:

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vourka wrote:
Brother how can you compare the actions of the Greek Junta to the Turkish Invasion of 1974 and the illegal occupation etc that followed? The scale and scope of the Turkish invasion was extremely horrific and had much larger effects and impacts by far . . this needs to be put in perspective


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I will say again that while i look for a united solution for the Cyprus problem the actions of Turkey were in response to the actions of Greece and the GC, remember over 25% of the TC community lived in ghetto's in inhumane conditions for 11 years and that was horrific and the impacts of the actions of Greece and the GC are still felt today.

Yes, but the response of Turkey was not in response to this - they did not intervene to resolve this - They used this as an excure to go on a killing rampage, to evict of 200,000 people from their homes, to kill thousands, etc etc this list goes on and to illegally occupy 37.5% of the island . . THIS IS NOT PROTECTING THE TC's

I begger to dissaggree, since the INTERVENTION of Turkey not one person has died and the TC are living in safety, they did protect us and still are at OUR request, i know this is hard for you to understand but the day you acknowledge the crimes you committed against the TC then you will understand the significance of what i am saying.

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I begger to dissaggree, since the INTERVENTION of Turkey not one person has died and the TC are living in safety, they did protect us and still are at OUR request, i know this is hard for you to understand but the day you acknowledge the crimes you committed against the TC then you will understand the significance of what i am saying.

I have already acknowledge this on several occassions . .What you must understand is that the actions of Turkey were EXTREME and UNNECESSARY not to mentions UNETHICAL and ILLEGAL.. As a vicitm of EOKA you should know that the scale of this is much much larger . . There was NO REASON to go to extreme measures and to hold an erxtremist view on this . .

Intervention to protect its people DID NOT NEED TO RESORT HORRIFIC WAS CONSEQUENCES AND ILLEGAL OCCUPATION OF 37.5% OF CYPRUS FOR 32 PLUS YEARS . .COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY!!

rousias wrote:

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I begger to dissaggree, since the INTERVENTION of Turkey not one person has died and the TC are living in safety, they did protect us and still are at OUR request, i know this is hard for you to understand but the day you acknowledge the crimes you committed against the TC then you will understand the significance of what i am saying.

I have already acknowledge this on several occassions . .What you must understand is that the actions of Turkey were EXTREME and UNNECESSARY not to mentions UNETHICAL and ILLEGAL.. As a vicitm of EOKA you should know that the scale of this is much much larger . . There was NO REASON to go to extreme measures and to hold an erxtremist view on this . .

Intervention to protect its people DID NOT NEED TO RESORT HORRIFIC WAS CONSEQUENCES AND ILLEGAL OCCUPATION OF 37.5% OF CYPRUS FOR 32 PLUS YEARS . .COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY!!

Firstly if you want to talk to me then do NOT shout or i will not respond to you, civility is what is a must in debate.


When you say this do you consider that the GC ethnically cleansed over 25% of TC and stuck them in to ghetto's compromising 3% of the island in inhumane conditions hence what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

That said two wrongs do not make a right but if you want the troops to leave then go and kich with steel toe capped boots your so called terrorist turned leader Tpap in the backside to return to negotiations and stop trying to get concessions from Turkey which is achieving nothing but cementing the PARTITION.

rousias wrote:

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I begger to dissaggree, since the INTERVENTION of Turkey not one person has died and the TC are living in safety, they did protect us and still are at OUR request, i know this is hard for you to understand but the day you acknowledge the crimes you committed against the TC then you will understand the significance of what i am saying.

I have already acknowledge this on several occassions . .What you must understand is that the actions of Turkey were EXTREME and UNNECESSARY not to mentions UNETHICAL and ILLEGAL.. As a vicitm of EOKA you should know that the scale of this is much much larger . . There was NO REASON to go to extreme measures and to hold an erxtremist view on this . .

Intervention to protect its people DID NOT NEED TO RESORT HORRIFIC WAS CONSEQUENCES AND ILLEGAL OCCUPATION OF 37.5% OF CYPRUS FOR 32 PLUS YEARS . .COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY!!

Rousias, you a very, very angry man. No need to shout like that, I got my glasses on.

Do you think that the allies responce to Germany and the way they dealt with the Germans were over the top and unnecessary?

What is the difference between what the Germans tried to do to the Jews of Europe and what you Greeks and Gc's tried to do to us Turkish Cypriots?

Why do you think that Tpaps with over 80% of GC's backing him up wants concession from Turkey and for Turkey to recognise the Greek Cypriots as the Government of the whole of Cyprus?


What will happen if Turkey did recognise you GC's as the sole rulers of Cyprus, what would you GC's do then?

Please rousias, try not to shout when you reply. I just bought a brand new pair of glasses and I don't want you to shutter them. They weren't cheap you know.


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Firstly if you want to talk to me then do NOT shout or i will not respond to you, civility is what is a must in debate.


When you say this do you consider that the GC ethnically cleansed over 25% of TC and stuck them in to ghetto's compromising 3% of the island in inhumane conditions hence what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

That said two wrongs do not make a right but if you want the troops to leave then go and kich with steel toe capped boots your so called terrorist turned leader Tpap in the backside to return to negotiations and stop trying to get concessions from Turkey which is achieving nothing but cementing the PARTITION.

It is not shouting it is emphasising important points that you (brother and eric) are failing to answer on every occassion.

Lets talk numbers here and put things in perspective..

It easy for you both to critisize Tpap. . He is in a very difficult position and has a very hard job . .Also ofcourse it is harder 32 years later . .Dektash made a deliberate and planned mess out of all this ..He held this up for 32 years in order to create a mess ..Easy to pass the buck to Tpaps isnt it ? ?

By the way . . dont be so sensitive and take capital letters and bold as shouting . . There is foul and disgusting language in many other posted .. Focus on this and dont worry about typesetting efforts to highlight IMPORTANT points

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What will happen if Turkey did recognise you GC's as the sole rulers of Cyprus, what would you GC's do then?

It is Turkey we need to worry about. .Do you seriously think Greece will step in ? ? ? ? ?

NO i dont think so. . And open your eyes as I do not think the Cypriots will break out war