Have there been any significant developments in the Cyprus Problem negotiations that anyone like to share with their views?

Tpap is still in power so what development can we expect apart from going backwards.

In what ways do you feel Tpap is making things difficult and making us go backward?

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In what ways do you feel Tpap is making things difficult and making us go backward?

He has refused to meet the TC democratically elected leader sice coming to power for over two years, made some very poor statements and told outright lies which the UN SG then publicly exposed him with and has his whole stratergy based on gettong concessions from Turkey(which will never happen BTW) and despite the calls from the SG for him to put forward what he thinks need to be changed in the A5 plan or put another forward he has also not done, these are the actions of a person that does not want peace or a solution.

No new significant developments in the Cyprus problem . The GC's are still governed by a known terrorist. The GC's are still after ENOSIS. The GC's still want Turkey to recognise the as the sole rulers of Cyprus.

So it's the same old, same old.


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The GC's are still after ENOSIS. The GC's still want Turkey to recognise the as the sole rulers of Cyprus.

So it's the same old, same old.

The GC's are no longer after ENOSIS Eric . .Where do you get this idea? ENOSIS, EOKA, and the Greek military involvement are a thing of the past . .Isnt this the general attitude in Cyprus?

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The GC's are still after ENOSIS. The GC's still want Turkey to recognise the as the sole rulers of Cyprus.

So it's the same old, same old.

The GC's are no longer after ENOSIS Eric . .Where do you get this idea? ENOSIS, EOKA, and the Greek military involvement are a thing of the past . .Isnt this the general attitude in Cyprus?

The "general attitude" in the GC South Cyprus is to hate the Turks both from Turkey and Cyprus and also demand that they (the GC's) become the sole rulers of the whole of Cyprus and us Turks as a mere minority. If you GC's become the sole rulers then Cyprus becomes a Greek Island and your ENOSIS is achieved according to the Akritas plan. If you Greeks and Greek Cypriots really think that we believe your lies about "ENOSIS is not the GC's aim any more" tand " we are all Cypriots" and all that crap then you lot are more stupid then you think we are.

The ENOSIS dream and Greece's (and it's military) involment are not a thing of the past, a toddler might believe your lies but no one else.

Tell me rousias, why is the GC's so hell bent on Turkey recognising the GC side as the legit "RoC" and the GC Government as the legit rulers of the whole of Cyprus? For a joke?

What has been achieved by the GC's if Turkey does recognise them as "RoC"?

What will be the first thing the GC's will demand of Turkey if they are recognised by Turkey as the legit "RoC Government"?

What will happen to the TRNC and the Turkish Cypriots?

Answer these questions and then we can talk some serious talk afterwards. If you are interested, let's tango.


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The ENOSIS dream and Greece's (and it's military) involment are not a thing of the past, a toddler might believe your lies but no one else.

I beg to differ Eric, the attituted of Cypriots is genrally not like this . . You are confusing Greeks from Greece and GC's/Cypriots . . Ofcourse hate still exits but ENOSIS with Greece is not in all Cypriots minds

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Tell me rousias, why is the GC's so hell bent on Turkey recognising the GC side as the legit "RoC" and the GC Government as the legit rulers of the whole of Cyprus? For a joke?

Because Turkey is illegally occupying and has done so for 32 years. There should be ONE Republic of Cyprus . .This should be neither goverened by Greece or Turkey, simple . .Do you not agree with this logic?

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What has been achieved by the GC's if Turkey does recognise them as "RoC"?

I am sure that there will be alot of demands from Turkey here if this ever happened

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What will be the first thing the GC's will demand of Turkey if they are recognised by Turkey as the legit "RoC Government"?

What will happen to the TRNC and the Turkish Cypriots?

It is difficult after 32 years, but I dont think it will be ENOSIS. If you feel that it is then Turkey has some serious things to sort with Greece.

The Turkish Cypriots should stay and the psuedo TRNC should cease to exist. Illegal Turkish settlors should be taken back to Turkey. The TC's should stay and should have the same rights as Cypriots, under ONE republic of Cyprus - Which is neither governed by Turkey or Greece . .

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The ENOSIS dream and Greece's (and it's military) involment are not a thing of the past, a toddler might believe your lies but no one else.

I beg to differ Eric, the attituted of Cypriots is genrally not like this . . You are confusing Greeks from Greece and GC's/Cypriots . . Ofcourse hate still exits but ENOSIS with Greece is not in all Cypriots minds

You say here that hate still exist and also say that "Enosis with Greece in not in all Cypriots minds". I'll mention these below later but for now let me say that I don't believe you about the ENOSIS but know very well about the hate of the GC's towards us TC's.

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Tell me rousias, why is the GC's so hell bent on Turkey recognising the GC side as the legit "RoC" and the GC Government as the legit rulers of the whole of Cyprus? For a joke?

Because Turkey is illegally occupying and has done so for 32 years. There should be ONE Republic of Cyprus . .This should be neither goverened by Greece or Turkey, simple . .Do you not agree with this logic?

No, I do not agree that there should be one RoC". The original "RoC" does not exist any more. It has been hijacked by you GC's. There are two different countries in Cyprus and the killing stopped the day the island was partitioned. A forced "marriage" can and will only lead to more killing in the future. Don't forget what you said above, "hate still exists" and also that you GC's want to be the sole rulers and us TC's as a second class minority citizens.

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What has been achieved by the GC's if Turkey does recognise them as "RoC"?

I am sure that there will be alot of demands from Turkey here if this ever happened

You are avoiding the question. If you want a serious conversation then do not try to slime your way out of answering.

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What will be the first thing the GC's will demand of Turkey if they are recognised by Turkey as the legit "RoC Government"?

What will happen to the TRNC and the Turkish Cypriots?

It is difficult after 32 years, but I dont think it will be ENOSIS. If you feel that it is then Turkey has some serious things to sort with Greece.

This is the part where I said above that I will mention. Above you said "ENOSIS with Greece is not in all Cypriots minds and now you are saying "but I dont think it will be ENOSIS. So, what is the real answer rousias, "NOT" or "don't think"? It is very clear that you yourself are not sure if it will be ENOSIS or not because you can't trust your own people to do what you expect them to do, so how do you expect us Turkish Cypriots to trust you Greek Cypriots and Greeks? But maybe you are just trying to lie to me and are making a right mess of it, possible isn't it?


[/quote]The Turkish Cypriots should stay and the psuedo TRNC should cease to exist. Illegal Turkish settlors should be taken back to Turkey. The TC's should stay and should have the same rights as Cypriots, under ONE republic of Cyprus - Which is neither governed by Turkey or Greece . .[/quote]

Again, "psuedo TRNC" or "psuedo state" is only used by you Greeks and Greek Cypriots and no one else. No, as long as even you as a greek Cypriot cannot trust your own people we Turkish Cypriots can't trust you either and we will keep the TRNC and you stay in your side of the island.

The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus is there, it exists and will be there for a very long time. You can call it "psuedo" or whatever but it's there right under your noses.

A "RoC" under Greek Cypriot rule will never exist and the real psuedo state is the South Cyprus who claims to be the original Republic of Cyprus. It isn't, the original Republic of Cyprus was destroyed by you Greeks and Greek Cypriots in 1963. Even the Government of the psuedo "RoC" isn't up to it's full strength, it's running on only 70% GC's without the 30% Turkish Cypriot MPs because the 30% of the Government that is supposed to be occupied by Turkish Cypriots were locked out of office by armed Greeks and Greek Cypriots illegally.

So as you can see, the only psuedo state is the psuedo RoC run by a psuedo RoC Government. A "Government" made up of thieves and murdering EOKA memebers.

BTW, how do you expect to build a one nation of Cypriots with one RoC when you GC's declare the year 2005 as the year of the EOKA and give them medals as well? Do you expect (or demand) that in case we do unite, we Turkish Cypriots celebrate the EOKA who tried to genocide us Turkish Cypriots as heroes?


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BTW, how do you expect to build a one nation of Cypriots with one RoC when you GC's declare the year 2005 as the year of the EOKA and give them medals as well? Do you expect (or demand) that in case we do unite, we Turkish Cypriots celebrate the EOKA who tried to genocide us Turkish Cypriots as heroes?

200,000 ethnically cleansed, 5000 dead and 1500 missing, and you expect us to put up with the yearly celebrations of 1974?..Even after we unite?...

Only a wanker on heavy usage of medication will make a comment like this...




your brain is turned into jelly....